cornish
4:29 Thu Mar 29
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Boo hoo I got caught cheating,tough luck you Aussie toerags.
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hacko
4:23 Thu Mar 29
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A slight change of subject but when I first turned on to the SA v Australia Test I was appalled at the measly crowd in attendance. If such a pathetic crowd come to see two countries of their "standing" then the current "cheating" scandal cannot improve it. Can it?
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VirginiaHam
4:15 Thu Mar 29
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This is damning.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/29/australia-ball-tampering-mickey-arthur-explosion
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El Scorchio
4:06 Thu Mar 29
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Truly heartbreaking to see scenes of Lehmann and Smith and the rest in tears etc.
Couldn't really happen to a bunch of more deserving people.
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VirginiaHam
3:19 Thu Mar 29
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Lehmann's resigning. That had t happen.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2018/03/29/steve-smith-addresses-australian-ball-tampering-scandal-live/
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VirginiaHam
3:16 Thu Mar 29
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Sven Roeder 9:02 Thu Mar 29
I'm afraid it's all very boring. All we did was try and find a way of shining the ball, not trying to get one side to deteriorate. There was a bit of seam picking/lifting went on too, but I can't say that it made that much difference. Playing with Hadlee, Rice, Jackman and Clark left me thinking they didn't need to fuck about with the ball. It's also worth commenting that there were more stitches in the seam of a Duke, plus you'd tun up at Trent Bridge, and were it not for the lines on the pitch, you'd not be able to locate the pitch on the square because i had so much grass on it.
Stuff like vaseline, sun screen and baby oil didn't really help much, and if anything made it harder to shine the ball. Sweets didn't exist in a ball shining sense.
In grade cricket all of us were covered in fly spray and sun screen so some of that must have got mixed up with sweat and ended up on the ball (we absolutely stank) but it didn't make any noticeable difference to the ball.
Sarfraz Nawaz seems to have go the credit for inventing reverse swing and there were more than rumours floating around about Imran Khan using a bottle top to ruin one side of the ball. That was before umpires checked the ball, but you'd imagine there were plenty of umpires who were retired players who had to notice the sudden change between a ball going gun barrel straight, and then suddenly going around corners after some mega scuffing.
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Far Cough
3:02 Thu Mar 29
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You can't put the blame solely on a newcomer to the baggy green, that would have been cuntery of the highest order
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Cheezey Bell-End
2:01 Thu Mar 29
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I haven't followed the whole story, but I don't understand why they had this press conference where they came clean about the whole thing. Should have just blamed Bancroft and denied any knowledge of it. Should have been part of the arrangement in the first place.
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Northern Sold
1:55 Thu Mar 29
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See the drought is over Down Under.... well since Steve Smith started blowing bogey bubbles out of his snozz... the big grizzling girl
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terry-h
12:50 Thu Mar 29
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What's happened to Australian men? Fucking cry baby Wanker.
They will want gay marriage legalized next.
Oh..
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Swiss.
12:47 Thu Mar 29
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Not seen a good cry like that since Kim Hughes.
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Far Cough
12:29 Thu Mar 29
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I almost felt sorry for Smith...
Almost
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Lee Trundle
12:22 Thu Mar 29
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http://images.indianexpress.com/2018/03/steve-smith-7595.jpg
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lowermarshhammer
12:18 Thu Mar 29
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It's wrong to kick a man when he is down.
But when it's an ex captain of Australia with the third highest test average of all time who is sobbing it is impossible not to laugh.
Did he have a snot bubble? Ha ha ha ha. MATE.
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Takashi Miike
12:14 Thu Mar 29
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.......but it's David Saker's fault, hahahaha
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Kaiser Zoso
12:11 Thu Mar 29
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Kim Hughes and now this
The Crims are a shambles
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BetterthanKaka
12:09 Thu Mar 29
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That was absolutely awesome.
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busheyhammer85
12:04 Thu Mar 29
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Steve Smith CRYING today.
Superb.
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Sven Roeder
9:02 Thu Mar 29
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VH
What was your experience of sweets in the mouth?
Was that a thing in your day?
I see Australia have been using a Duke ball (understand its a variation of the UK one not identical) in the second half of the Sheffield Shield season. Part of it is pressure on Kookaburra to improve their product and part looking to the 2019 Ashes.
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VirginiaHam
5:57 Thu Mar 29
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In the old days (75-95) you could shine the ball and remove mud/grass from the seam. We chose as dark a Duke ball as possible, waited for the lacquer to wear off (5-10 overs) and then got shining one side of the ball.
In those days the seam had far more stitches than the ball has now, pitches weren't flat as shit and aside of all that the game wasn't geared to batsmen.
Dukes now have less stitches, pitches have no grass, and boundaries are shorter. To an extent, the ICC has created a monster, and it has spawned ball tampering.
Kookaburra balls are useless after 15 overs, and they are used in 3/4 test playing countries. No wonder the ball is being manipulated at test level.
I've played 1st class/club level on 4 continents and seen no ball tampering. At club level the degree of co-ordination just doesn't lend itself to tampering.....think weekend cricketers who forget where they are mean to be fielding.
In practice I've loaded one side of the ball with sweat and shined the other side, or used a bottle top on the non shiny side and the ball goes around corners. In a game you can't use a bottle top (unless you are a Pakistani) and trying to get a bunch of amateurs to load sweat on one side of the ball and shine the other is utterly impossible.
Great spot by Fannie de Villiers to tell the cameramen to look for ball tamperers because the ball was reversing too soon. Had to be a very professional job.
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Ronald_antly
1:09 Thu Mar 29
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As I understand it, they only shine it on one side.
That's not how the ball is originally.
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